一图看美-俄-中-英四国水面战舰55年来的发展情况

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jm_leviathan

upxed version of previously posted chart. Same criteria as before:

NOTE: This is NEWLY COMMISSIONED TONNAGE OVER TIME, not AGGREGATE TONNAGE IN SERVICE (although obviously the former tends to translate to the latter over time).

Eligible types are cruisers, destroyers, frigates, corvettes. Excluded are aircraft carriers, amphibious or landing vessels, supply/replenishment ships, and surface combatants displacing less than 950 tons full load. Coast Guard ships (e.g. Krivak III) excluded. Vessels built for other nations excluded. Vessels ordered from other nations included. Vessels are counted once upon first commissioning; subsequent reactivations, refits, modifications or other forms of return to service are not counted.

USA: 4x Iowa-class battleships excluded.

Soviet unx/Russia: 4x Kiev- and 1x Kuznetsov-class aircraft-carrying cruisers excluded. Grisha-, Parchim-, Buyan-M and Bora-class corvettes included. Karakurt- and smaller excluded.

China: Type 056/A corvettes included. Smaller Type 037, 022, etc. excluded.

UK: River-class and previous offshore patrol vessels not included; lacking missile armament, these ships seem more akin to Coast Guard vessels operated by other nations.

Projections to end 2024 obviously include some level of uncertainty. All are slightly conservative.

更新之前发布的图表。与之前的标准相同:

注:这是一段时间内的新服役的吨位数,而不是总服役吨位数(尽管很明显,随着时间的推移,前者往往会转化为后者)。

计算进来的舰艇类型包括巡洋舰,驱逐舰,护卫舰,小型护卫舰。不包括航空母舰、两栖或登陆舰、后勤/补给舰和满载排水量少于950吨的水面战舰。不包括海岸警卫队舰船(例如克里瓦克 III)。为其他国家建造的船只除外。从其他国家订购的船只也包括在内。船只在首次试航时计算一次;随后的重新激活、改装、修改或其他形式的重新服役不计算在内。

美国:4艘爱荷华级战舰除外。

苏联/俄罗斯:不包括4艘基辅级和1艘库兹涅佐夫级载机巡洋舰。包括格里沙,帕希姆, 布扬-M和博拉级护卫舰。卡拉库姆特和更小的地区被排除在外。

中国:包括056型/A型护卫舰。不包括较小的037,022型等。

英国:不包括河道级和以前的近海巡逻艇;由于缺乏导弹装备,这些船看起来更像其他国家的海岸警卫队船只。

对2024年结束的预测显然包含了某种程度的不确定性。对四国的估计都有些保守。

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Ragingsheep

Ok, that's fair. I just got triggers by some of the other comments made by others in this post since so much of the USN's combat prowess is based around its carriers.

好吧,很公平。我刚刚被这个帖子里其他人的某些其他评论触动了,因为美国海军的战斗力很大程度上都是以它的航母为基础的。

JMHSrowing

Oh Britain. There’s no way you could keep up really, but it’s sad to see such a fall.

哦,英国。你真的没有办法跟上,但是看到这样的下跌还是很伤心的。

jm_leviathan

At least things should be brighter from 2025 with both Type 26 and Type 31 coming online.

至少从2025年开始,随着26型和31型的投入使用,英国的情况会光明一点的。

JMHSrowing

Indeed!

The more I learn about the Type 26 more it does seem to be a great ship. Especially that mission bay.

Even as quite a Light frigate, the sheer size of the 31 is quite an advantage for things like potential upgrades as well.

确实!

我对26型了解得越多,就越觉得它确实是一艘伟大的舰艇。尤其它的舰岛。

即使是一艘相当轻的护卫舰,31型的庞大规模对于潜在的升级而言也是相当有利的。

redthursdays

And while this diagram is for surface combatants, adding two CVs will do a lot for the RN

而且尽管这个图表是为了说水面战舰的,增加两艘航母会让皇家海军增益不少。

JMHSrowing

A combined over 140,000 tons would indeed do that

总共超过14万吨当然会增益不少。

Luke_RJC

It’s a unfair graph really. During the next 5 the type 26s, type 31s, the end of the astute, and the dreadnought program are under construction.

这个图表真的很不公平。在未来5年,26型,31型,最后的机敏级和无畏舰项目都将进行建造。

MaterialCarrot

Even with those factored in, that line isn't going to get much about 15 hulls.

即使考虑了那些因素,英国这条线也最多会多15艘。

surrounded_by_vapor

There's a few different ways to look at the measures of a fleet. Hull count is one to be sure, so is Battle Force Missiles. Here's an article from Cmdr. K. Patton on the topic.

http://cimsec.org/battle-force-missiles-the-measure-of-a-fleet/40138?fbclid=IwAR3-CZ0WqrTAY8PMrVtZBK0eGVVvGm0AYh1lZVOK77G9OqnysInauSbjou8

有好几种不同的方式来衡量舰队。舰只数量当然是一种,导弹战力(BFM)也是一种。这里有一篇指挥官K. Patton关于这个话题的文章。

MaterialCarrot

The concern for the US regarding China is, not only are they outbuilding us, they have the luxury of keeping most of their navy in the Western Pacific and Indian oceans. Ours are spread out all over the world.

美国对中国的担忧是,中国不仅在造舰方面超过了美国,而且他们可以将大部分海军部署在西太平洋和印度洋。我们则需要分布在世界各地。

The_Kid_1999

well china cant project power as much as america

嗯,中国不能像美国那样投射军力。

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Faymm

Very cool graphic!

很酷的图表!

The_Kid_1999

The UK line makes me want to cry. What have the politicians done to our once great navy. Shame on them.

英国那条线我想哭。政客们对我们曾经伟大的海军做了什么?鄙视他们。

JMHSrowing

I mean, we have like 70 of the largest and most powerful destroyers in the world plus over 20 cruisers.

Arguably the only nation with a single super carrier and we have 11. Plus amphibious assault ships larger than many nations carriers.

The US probably has over a 2 power advantage currently

我的意思是,我们有大约70艘世界上最大最强的驱逐舰,还有20多艘巡洋舰。

可以说是唯一拥有超级航母的国家,而我们有11艘。再加上比许多国家的航母还大的两栖攻击舰。

美国目前拥有的优势可能超过两个强国。

The_Kid_1999

1 nuclear war and its all over so whats the point

一场核战争就全报销了,有什么意义呢。

JMHSrowing

Smaller scale wars, power projection, and the like

在小规模战争、军力投射以及诸如此类方面有意义。

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