和马斯克一起工作是什么感觉?

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John Buckmaster

I worked for two of his companies….Solar City(now Tesla Solar) and Tesla. My experience wasn’t great….I was working at Solar City when he officially took over(he was already a major shareholder prior to that). At that time sales were in a slight downturn as opposed to the year prior, but shortly after he officially took over those sales went into a death spiral. Elon decided that he didn’t really like the aesthetic nature of a solar ‘panels’ and decided to quickly transition to solar ‘roof’. ‘Roof’ was still in the design phase. He made the decision to start taking deposits for solar roof and stop pushing Solar panels. He also decided to get rid of the sales teams(80%). He wanted to push sales online (much like how Tesla auto does it). That sales model did not work and sales went downhill fast. Solar roof is amazing Aesthetically, and the product is mature, however the means of installing it, and the price point is still cost prohibitive for the masses. He also wanted to push his batteries(Power Wall) for in-home use. That’s great, and it is a fine product, but it is usually an add to a LARGE solar system…so… If you are not selling solar systems, then you are not going to sell very many batteries.

Since he took over, two years ago, solar city(Tesla) has had mass layoffs and firings. Thousands of hard-working people have lost their jobs(50%) because of bad business Decisions. You don’t hear much about this, nor do you hear much about his layoffs at Tesla Auto (They also have had mass layoffs). I don’t know many people that still work there, but the couple of people that I do, say it’s a shadow of what it once was…and… morale is an all time low. You don’t hear much about this either. What you hear about are Musk’s next…latest and greatest ventures. Why is that? It is because of carefully coordinated marketing, and manipulation of his “brand”…

I will say that, when I worked there, the in-house training that was provided/offered to all employees was outstanding. The apps(we used a lot of them) to preform our jobs were well written and allowed employees to work efficiently.

我在他的两家公司工作过,太阳能城市(now Tesla Solar现在的特斯拉太阳能)和特斯拉汽车。我的经历不是很好……当他正式接管太阳能城市时,我正在那里工作(在此之前,他已经是一个大股东)。与前一年相比,当时的销售略有下滑,但在他正式接手后不久,销售就进入了死亡螺旋。埃隆觉得自己并不喜欢太阳能“电池板”的美感,决定迅速转向太阳能“屋顶”。“屋顶”仍在设计阶段。他决定开始收取太阳能屋顶的押金,并停止推广太阳能电池板。他还决定解散销售团队(80%)。他想要推动在线销售(就像特斯拉汽车一样)。这种销售模式并不奏效,销量迅速下滑。太阳能屋顶非常美观,产品成熟,不管安装的方式如何,这个价格对于大众来说仍然是高得令人望而却步。他还想把他的电池推广到家庭使用。这很好,这也是一个很好的产品,但它通常是一个大型太阳能系统的补充部分……所以,如果你不卖太阳能系统,那么你就卖不出很多电池。自从他两年前上任以来,太阳能城市已经进行了大规模的裁员和解雇。成千上万辛勤工作的人因为他糟糕的商业决策失去了工作(50%)。这方面的消息并不多,关于他在特斯拉汽车公司裁员的消息也不多见(他们也进行了大规模裁员)。我认识的在那里工作的人不多,但我认识的几个人都说,现在的公司已经今不如昔了,士气也一直低落。你们也没怎么听说过。你听到的都是马斯克下一个……最新的、最伟大的冒险。为什么会这样?正是由于精心协调的营销,以及对他的“品牌”的操纵……

我想说的是,我在那里工作时,为所有员工提供的内部培训都非常出色。APP程序(我们使用了很多)很好地完成了我们的工作,让员工们能够高效地工作。

Also of note…

When I started there we had 125+ employees working out of my office. When I got laid off there were 17 employees left. The bulk of those employees comprised of 2 install teams, one person to performs each of a handful of specific office functions, a manager, and a admin assistant, and a couple of people in the warehouse.

It is my opinion, Elon’s supposed innovative business models and ‘Vision’ deserves the cricisism and scrutiny he is now staring to receive.

In my time there ( just under two years) I only knew One employee that had a Tesla. That’s because, quite frankly, no one that works there can afford them. I met a handful of employees (out of hundreds) that have solar on thier roof, and one that I knew had the in-home Tesla battery(power wall)…As an employee ther is really no incentive to buy any of the products…. Particularly the automobiles! If you bought a solar system you got $1000 off but had to wait until there was a gap in schedule to accommodate the installation. The average price of a residential solar system, even after rebates/incentives, generally starts at 25 to 30K. Depending on size it quickly goes up from there. Most employees just couldn’t afford them.

I was paid less than what was promised. I was shown the same type of pay scales that everyone is shown. I NEVER had the opportunity to make that amount of money. You could have spent 70–80 or more hours trying, but pay was directly tied to volume of sales(I was not in sales just to be clear), and that is common sense… when sales went down so did the majority of ALL the employees pay.

I’m not seeing any first-hand accounts from people that worked for a Musk held company. All I’m seeing, as answers, are cut-and-pastes from what I call the ‘Musk propaganda machine’…

He/they talk a good game…but what has he actually accomplished other than to become a billionaire?

还值得注意的的是......

刚开始的时候,我们有125多名员工在我的办公室工作。当我被解雇时,还剩17名员工。这些员工大部分由两个安装团队组成,一个人执行少数特定的办公室功能,一个经理和一个行政助理,以及仓库中的几个人。

在我看来,马斯克所谓的创新商业模式和“愿景”应当受到批评和审视。在我任职期间(不到两年),我只知道一个员工有一辆特斯拉。坦白地说,那是因为在那里工作的人都买不起。我在数百名员工中遇到了少数几个在屋顶上安装了太阳能,还有一个我知道的员工使用了家用特斯拉电池……作为那里的一名员工,真的没有购买任何产品的动机,特别是汽车!如果你买了一个太阳能系统,你可以得到1000美元的折扣,但你必须等待,直到有安装的档期。住宅太阳能系统的平均价格,即使在回扣/激励之后,通常也在2.5万到3万美元。根据尺寸的不同,它的价格也迅速上升。大多数员工都买不起。

我得到的报酬比承诺的少。他们向我展示了和其他人一样的薪资等级。但我从来没有机会拿到那么多钱。你可能会花上70-80个小时甚至更多的时间工作,但薪酬与销量直接挂钩(我并不是销售岗位),这里有个普遍的常识是,销量下降,员工的薪水就会下降。

我没有看到任何马斯克控股公司的员工提供的第一手资料。我所看到的,作为答案,都是从我所谓的“马斯克宣传机器”剪切和粘贴过来的……

他/他们话讲得很好,但除了成为一个亿万富翁之外,他还取得了什么成就呢?

Mike Townsend

Elon never puts up with any technical BS. He focuses extremely highly on the integrity of work and has a very professional but low tolerance for under-performers.

I am told that he doesn't care much about personality flaws, as long as you take the initiative, get shit done, and fast.

At SpaceX there is an expression: "No matter how hard you work, someone else is working harder"... You can guess who that is.

Quoting my friend: "Elon is a serious powerhouse in the building and sets the culture for everyone, which makes it exciting to work there."

All in all, it sounds like an incredibly intense, inspiring, and focused operation at SpaceX with some of the world's most intelligent people, a large % in their mid 20s/ early 30s'.

伊隆从不容忍任何技术废话。他非常注重工作的完整性,非常专业,但对表现不佳的员工容忍度很低。我被告知,他不太在意你的人格缺陷,只要你能主动迅速地完成任务。

SpaceX公司有句话:“不管你工作有多努力,总有人比你更努力”……你可以猜到说的是谁。

引用我朋友的话:“伊隆是大楼里是一个强大的动力,为每个人树立了文化,这让你为在那里工作感到兴奋。”

总而言之,在SpaceX,这听起来是一种非常紧张、鼓舞人心和专注的运营方式,拥有世界上最聪明的一些人,其中很大一部分人年龄在25岁左右或30岁出头。

Carden Bagwell

I didn't work with elon directly much when I was at Tesla, but my team and I met with him to discuss obstacles on a couple occasions.

The thing that stuck out to me most was how quickly he caught on to what he were trying to accomplish and what challenges we faced. He also was never intimidated by our challenges. He didn't really seem worried about technical details. He always had a way of taking a complicated problem and making it very simple.

He wasn't ever rude or unprofessional, but he was never afraid to interrupt or challenge an assertion.

在特斯拉的时候,我并没有和伊隆直接合作过,但我和我的团队有几次与他会面,讨论问题。

最令我印象深刻的是,他很快就意识到自己想要实现的目标,以及我们面临的挑战。他也从来没有被我们的挑战吓倒。他似乎并不担心技术细节。他总是有办法把复杂的问题简单化。他从不粗鲁或不专业,但他从不害怕打断或质疑一个主张。

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