为什么菲律宾不像韩国、日本、越南那样属于东亚文化圈?
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Why Philippine is not part of East Asian Cultural Sphere like Korean,Japan and Vietnam
为什么菲律宾不像韩国、日本、越南那样属于东亚文化圈
is a geographic shield or other factor on why china dont totally influence philippine unlike korea japan and vietnam?
是地理屏障还是其他因素导致中国不像对韩国、日本和越南那样完全影响过菲律宾?
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crazyaristocrat66
While the countries of Southeast Asia contain a significant number of people of East Asian descent, majority of these still comprise of people of Austronesian ancestry. There's just shared more shared culture, traditions and values that the Philippines has with Malaysia, Indonesia, and Brunei, that's why.
虽然东南亚国家中有大量的东亚后裔,但其中大多数人的祖先仍是南岛民族。这就是菲律宾与马来西亚、印度尼西亚和文莱拥有更多共同文化、传统和价值观的原因。
Momshie_mo
People from Mainland Southeast Asia are Austroasiatics though
不过自东南亚大陆而来的人是南亚语族
Lumpy-Baseball-8848
Yeah, and the countries listed (Malaysia, Indonesia, and Brunei) are Maritime Southeast Asia.
是的,所列国家(马来西亚、印度尼西亚和文莱)都属于东南亚海洋国家。
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mettamorepoesis
Malaysia is half and half. The peninsular part is technically Mainland Southeast Asia.
马来西亚一半一半。严格来说,半岛部分属于东南亚大陆。
cebu_96
Kinh (Viet) and Khmer people are Austroasiatic. But ethnic groups like Cham and E De are also Austronesians that are native to Vietnam.
京族(越南人)和高棉人属于南亚语族。但占族和鄂德族等少数民族却是越南本土的南岛语族。
mettamorepoesis
The only major Austroasiatic languages in Indochina are Vietnamese and Khmer. All in all it is a hodgepodge of various language families. Burmese is Tibeto-Burman, a distant cousin of Chinese. Thai and Lao belong to the Tai-Kradai family. If you include the Malay peninsula, then Bahasa Melayu as the major representative of Austronesian languages.
印度支那(中南半岛)唯一主要的南亚语系是越南语和高棉语。总之,这是一个由不同语系组成的大杂烩。缅甸语是藏缅语,是汉语的远亲。泰语和老挝语属于台-卡岱语系。如果把马来半岛包括在内,那么马来语就是这里南岛语系的主要代表。
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Cobid-ninetin
And if we actually think about it. Most of the Chinese diaspora in the Southeast or at least the Philippines, are of Fujian descent. If we actually trace back Fujianese DNA during the Neolithic or even just at the Qin or Han Dynasty. We will see that will have a large amount of Austronesian DNA as well. This is because that is the source of the pre austronesian people, the Liangdao man. 23&me won’t show this because 23&me or ancestry and all other DNA sites don’t go that far. So if we think about it, the Chinese migration into the Philippines is a continuation of Austronesian DNA into the the archipelago. Would make sense why many Filipinos with Filipino and Chinese ancestry, will still look very southeast Asian.
如果我们仔细想想,散居在东南亚或至少是菲律宾的大多数华人都是福建人后裔。如果我们实际上追溯到新石器时代甚至秦汉时期的福建人DNA。如果我们追溯福建人在新石器时代,甚至是秦汉时期的 DNA。我们会发现其中也有大量的南岛民族 DNA。这是因为那里是前南岛人--亮岛人--的源头。 23&me(基因检测)不会显示这一点,因为23&me或祖先以及所有其他DNA网站都不会太过深入。因此,如果我们仔细想想,中国人移民到菲律宾是南岛人的 DNA 在群岛上的延续。这也就解释了为什么许多拥有菲律宾和中国血统的菲律宾人看起来仍然非常像东南亚人。
MrDrProfPBall
For one there is a big sea in between us that is greater compared to the distances from mainland to Taiwan/Kyushu. The most ‘sinicized’ SEA would be vietnam since they have a land border with them. We also didn’t experience greater sinicization as seen in your given examples due to lack of actual central control, with our Chinese influence mainly stemming from traders and migrants. Even then, the only SEA country that experienced an actual invasion by the ‘Chinese’ are the Yuan when they invaded Java. Even in that case, it was still helping a local power that them outright putting it under their direct control.
首先,与大陆到台湾/九州的距离相比,我们之间隔着一大片海。最“中国化”的东南亚地区是越南,因为他们与越南有陆地边界。由于缺乏实际的中央控制,我们也没有像你所举的例子那样经历更大规模的汉化,我们的中国影响主要来自商人和移民。即便如此,唯一经历过“中国人”实际入侵的东南亚国家是元朝入侵爪哇。即使在那种情况下,他们也只是在扶植一个地方势力,而不是直接将其置于自己的控制之下。
MutyaPearl
People should understand that overwhelming "central control" only existed when the concept of the "nation-states" got promoted and adopted in the 19th and 20th centuries.
人们应该明白,压倒性的“中央控制”只是在 19 世纪和 20 世纪“民族国家”的概念得到推广和采纳时才出现的。
BambooPrincess99
Because the Chinese only came here to trade and conduct business. Philippines was more Indianized since Hindu-Buddhist influence became deep rooted in our cultures due to continuous interactions with Srivijaya and Majapahit (and maybe even from Indians themselves)
And also, Spain did cut us off from the rest of Asia except China after colonizing us
因为中国人来这里只是为了贸易和做生意。由于与三佛齐和满者伯夷(甚至可能来自印度人本身)的持续互动,菲律宾的印度化程度更高,印度教和佛教的影响在我们的文化中根深蒂固。
此外,西班牙在殖民我们之后,确实切断了我们与除中国之外的亚洲其他地区的联系。