【科技】小米SU7 Ultra在中国上市,马力高达1500匹

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@syzygyer

It's just released with the price of 529 k yuan (previously said to be 820k). xiaomi expect 10 k sales of SU 7 ultra for 2025. I think it will sell more than 10k units.

刚发布的价格是52.9万人民币(之前说是82万)。小米预计2025年SU7 Ultra能卖1万台。我觉得这车肯定能卖得更多,1万台太保守了。

@Mnm0602

How does 1500 hp even get to the road properly without insane tires lol? Holy shit.

怎样才能让1500匹马力稳稳地在路面上行驶呀,没有超强顶配轮胎抓地怕不是要飞出去。卧槽,这也太猛了。

@syzygyer

Check the video from YouTuber telescope. Obviously you can set it to some "comfort" mode which gives about 400 HP. Even on the track, he was driving in the "endurance" mode which only gives 900 HP. The 1500 is only supposed to be used seriously, like on a track.

看看油管博主telescope的视频就知道了。很明显你可以调到舒适模式,大概400马力。就算在赛道上,他也是用"耐力赛"模式开的,只有900马力。1500马力那是要动真格的时候才用的,比如在赛道上飙车。

@linjun_halida

It has tires import from Europe.

这车用的是欧洲进口轮胎

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@danielv123

At higher speed I assume grip is less of an issue for acceleration and it gets more power limited, though I guess performance at 150+ doesn't matter at all outside the track

速度上来之后,抓地力对加速的影响应该就没那么大了,更多是受限于动力。不过话说回来,150+的速度除了在赛道上,其他地方也用不上吧,谁没事开那么快啊!

@e136

Correct - the tire contact patches have a limited force they can apply to push the road backward/push the car forward. And since speed * force = power. And since power is approximately constant (very roughly), 1500 hp would overcome the contact patches friction at low speeds (spin tires) but not at high speeds. So I would guess this has a good 0-60mph time, but amazing higher end acceleration (say 100-150mph)

没错——轮胎与地面接触的部分施加的力是有限的,它的作用是推动路面向后或推动汽车向前。由于速度乘以力等于功率,而功率大致是恒定的(非常粗略地说),所以在低速时,1500马力能够克服接触面上的摩擦力(比如轮胎打滑),但在高速时就不行了。因此,我猜这辆车的0-60英里/小时加速时间应该不错,但更令人惊讶的应该是它在高速区间的加速性能(例如100-150英里/小时)。

@Terrh

my 762hp model S seems to do just fine with all seasons even in the rain.

我那762马力的特斯拉Model S各个季节开起来也完全没问题,哪怕是雨天

@ssspppeed

The preordered amount has been over 10k. So impressive

预售量就已经破万了,这也太顶了吧!

@nuHAYven

Many people preordered cyber trucks and then cancelled when they were so bad.

很多人预定了赛博卡车(特斯拉2019发布的一款电动皮卡),结果发现太拉胯了,直接退单了。

@faitswulff

If xiaomi executes well, we'll probably see the opposite effect here.

如果小米这波表现出色的话,咱们很可能会看到完全相反的情况

@mooman555

This car confuses me so much, these specs and those prices should be impossible

这辆车让我一脸懵逼,这样的配置和价格应该是不可能的。

@wwwhatisgoingon

All Chinese car prices seem impossible when directly converted. Domestic competition is massive, they're operating at thin or negative profit margins to gain market share, big economies of scale, vertical integration, and there isn't a dealership middleman demanding their share.

The most expensive trim and 530hp version of the BYD Seal, for comparison, sells for $25.000 converted.

中国汽车的价格直接换算后简直离谱。国内竞争太激烈了,车企们都在薄利多销甚至亏本赚吆喝,就为了抢占市场份额。他们玩的是规模经济,产业链垂直整合,而且没有中间商赚差价。

就拿比亚迪海豹来说,顶配530马力的版本换算成美元才2万。

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@kimi_rules

$10,000 profit per car is not the same in the US vs China. Everything is cheaper in China, there is more value per dollar.

美中两国每辆车赚1万美元的利润差别可大了。在中国,几乎所有东西都很便宜,一美元能买到的东西更多。

@1AMA-CAT-AMA

Imagine what actual competition would do to the US market

想象一下真正的竞争会给美国市场带来什么冲击

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@tenemu

Id assume most car companies would go under and everything will be manufactured in China not the US. Is this what people prefer? Sure cars could be cheaper but will people have any jobs to buy stuff?

我猜大多数汽车公司都会倒闭,所有东西都会在中国制造而不是美国。这是大家想要的吗?车是便宜了,但到时候大家还有工作能买得起东西吗?

@Cautious-Question606

Free market baby, thats what US has been touting for it

自由市场万岁,这不就是美国一直在吹捧的玩意儿么

@bangbangIshotmyself

Exactly. It would be amazing for our evolution as a nation.

We could allow China to build all these things and but then for cheap. That way Americans can spend much more money on other things.

Also, it would allow Americans to focus on other jobs that’s produce value in other ways instead of just being labor slaves

没错,这对我们国家的发展来说简直太棒了!

我们可以让中国来建造这些东西,而且价格还便宜。这样一来,美国人就能把更多的钱花在其他地方了。

而且,这还能让美国人专注于其他更能创造价值的工作,而不是整天当苦力。

@robinvangreenwood

incredible to think that the country that's supposed to be the flagbearer of free market is US in this scenario.

真是让人难以置信,在这种情况下,号称自由市场旗手的居然是美国。

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@melvladimir

But this is not “actual” competition. It’s China VS other markets. It’s not the same. There are a lot of things behind final price

但这可不是真正的"公平竞争"。这是中国VS其他市场,完全不是一回事。最终价格背后藏着太多门道了。

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@rtb001

While you make some valid points, they wouldn't apply to halo cars such the SU7 Ultra, which isn't meant to be sold in large numbers.

虽然你说得有点道理,但这些观点并不适用于像SU7 Ultra这样的旗舰车型。这种车本来就不是走量的,主打的就是一个高端定位。

@danielv123

Apparently they expect to sell 10k of it this year, but I guess large numbers is relative

听说他们今年打算卖1万台,不过嘛,数量多少都是相对的

@davidsv

xiaomi just announced that they have got 10k orders in two hours!

小米刚刚宣布,他们两小时内就接到了1万单!这也太猛了吧!

@danielv123

Not surprised

一点都不意外

@nuHAYven

I don’t know why this gets downvoted.

American car manufacturers benefit from things like direct loans during the bailout, massive subsidies of oil companies making gasoline cheaper, our free highway system, and underinvestment in alternative transport like intercity trains.

真不明白为什么这帖子会被踩。美国的汽车制造商可是占了不少便宜,比如救助计划中的直接贷款、石油公司获得的巨额补贴让汽油更便宜、免费的高速公路系统,还有对城际列车等替代交通方式投资不足,这些都在为他们提供帮助。

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